Selling A Car On Facebook Marketplace Is The WORST!! Scams, Fakers, And Time Wasters.

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If you like to Get Out N Drive, you have probably spent some time checking out Facebook Marketplace looking for your next ride or selling one you have. Aaaaaand you've probably considered driving to someone's house and punch them in the face after dealing with them. Fake listings, Wal-Mart gift card scammers, negotiating before even seeing the car, that $1234 pricing, and random ghosting....the stupid possibilities are endless! Ride along as Jason OldeCarrGuy Carr and John CustomCarNerd Meyer dive into the horrors of buying and selling cars on Facebook Marketplace. 

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Announcer

You're listening to the Get Out N Drive podcast fueled by AMD with your hosts, John Custom Car Nerd Meyer and Jason Old Car Guy Carr. We'll be bringing you gearheads everything you've never wanted to know about cars and why they should be on the road and not in your garage. Are you ready to get out N drive?

Jason

Oh, John, you ever have one of those times where you just, you're scrolling through and you just, every roll that you go through, it's just a... more and more funny yes oh yeah and before you know it your wife starts throwing at you because you're making.

John

You're laughing too much you're making too much noise you're having too much fun without them.

Jason

Oh okay I am composed John who has more fun than a middle-aged old guy sitting there Doom scrolling on his phone?

John

Every time, every single time. We're trying to get it rolling, and I'm trying to get square, and you're telling me stuff, and I'm sending you crap, and you're laughing, and I don't even know.

Jason

We all have that one friend, don't we?

John

We do. I'm sad that you are mine, but okay.

Jason

Well, what a great segue into all the things that were being shared with us over drive day. Oh, yeah. A couple of weekends ago and overwhelming. I can't get over the number of posts that people didn't just take a picture and go tag, get Out N Drive. No, they shot video. Some of them, you know, narrated their video. Some people went further to get some custom shots. And like, if you guys just when you're done listening to this, Get on your phone and just go into your search bar anywhere, any browser, any social media and type hashtag national get Out N Drive day. You'll see what we're talking about. It was amazing. The support that we had not we're not even talking about the companies that jumped in on this. We're talking about individual people that are like you guys who are listening to us right now.

John

Yeah, people that didn't have to do anything. They could have sailed right on through and no one cared. But they stopped and they wanted to make sure everybody knew that they loved National Get Out N Drive Day and what they were driving. And they'd show us as safely as possible. They'd show us pictures of what they were driving, driving a vehicle, talking about what they were driving, just hanging out and having fun.

Jason

And we saw. a literal crap ton of awesome vehicles Pontiac Le Mans old Buick Skylarks somebody even had what's that what's we oh I should know this yeah with his what is it a 50 52 mercury lead sled with the flames in the front of it Oh, I don't know for a long time.

John

Yeah, I don't know.

Jason

Why am I forgetting his name? Anyways, there's just, there's so many different cars out there, trucks, even modern stuff. Somebody was out there in their Ford Escape with a get Out N Drive, National Get Out N Drive Day 2025 sticker on the back of it. Just living the best dream with their family, going out to get some ice cream, having a good time. And I am thankful for everybody that had the opportunity or took the time to tag us because that's what we wanted to see we want we want to see this become a wave that gets bigger and bigger every year.

John

Yeah well let me officially come on here and say to everybody that had just bombarded the crap out of us about getting decals or I didn't get my decal I didn't get my decal you know why it's because we had too many people sign up we ran out twice now we've got some more back in We're gonna get caught up 'cause my head's still spinning. So everybody that stayed with us, people that got it on before drive day, people that got 'em after drive day, whatever, thank you for your patience. This year, God, Jason, this year's been overwhelming. Here's your reminder to support the companies that support your right to get Out N Drive.

Jason

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John

With the giant *** decal.

Jason

Giant decals and want stick them everywhere and they were kind enough to send me a couple up here in Canada John got a couple and like these were huge like they're I think in my video I made I said they were 38 they're not they're like 24 or 22 inches wide but they're huge and they stand out and it's something that I think moving forward next year we'll have to do the same thing and make some funny skits out of it and yeah so huge shout out to AMD Jason and Eddie And Amanda too, because she was out there filming some of that stuff for those guys and making sure that, you know, they got the word out. So huge shout out to those guys over at AMD. Also, our pal from Oklahoma who travels back and forth to Maine.

John

Always driving.

Jason

He's always driving. So it's just another day for him, but he chose to put our name on it.

John

So Fred Ashmore Ashmore speed and performance.

Jason

ASAP and he's only a couple of hours from me when he's in Maine and of all these years we still haven't have yet to connect but he's got a birthday coming up soon yeah and it's the big one for him I think it's 50 it is 50 and he's planning on doing a big big drive John you know a little about that I think that you might even be taking part in some fashion possibly.

John

I haven't said yet. Nothing's happening yet. I can't let out any information. Let's just say the passenger seat might be warm.

Jason

So yeah, so big shout out to Fred. That day on October 5th, he was traveling back. He had bought a, what was it? Was it a mercury cougar?

John

Yeah, I think he bought a cougar from. some guy that they called lion somebody and like making up stories and fibbin saying his 70 Mercury Cougar ran nines.

Jason

Yeah. Fred was on his way back home. And like I said, he was doing a live on Instagram, which while he was driving allegedly in Mexico, right? But yeah, there's a lot of people.

John

Between Oklahoma and Maine, didn't it?

Jason

Yeah, yeah. That's on the way.

John

Yeah. Maybe my map's wrong?

Jason

Yeah. A lot of people taking advantage of National Get Out N Drive Day, helping us help support the cause. And if you guys don't know what the cause is, somebody said, well, Jason, what do you gain out of this? I don't gain a cent. I don't gain anything. The whole purpose of National Get Out N Drive Day is just that. We want to see you getting out in your ride to enjoy it with your family, enjoy it with your friends, or by yourself. But we want you out driving. Older vehicles, collector cars, trucks, motorcycles, wagons, horse and buggy, whatever you've got, they're all meant to be driven. They're meant to get Out N Drive. So whether you're snapping the reins or you're slapping the gas pedal, that's the whole point of National Get Out N Drive Day. There are a few side things that go along with that, and simply one of those happens to be you know the opportunity to help support kids getting back into the trades what drives youth is a big mantra we like to say John talk a little bit about some of the charities that we try and make people aware of for what drives youth.

John

We really support the RPM Foundation and they have a big hand in the X Cup for the Great Race and that is that's a that's an incredible incredible thing And we have operative talent as well on board with us. And they support the next generation. They support people getting into trades. And there's several different places that they have introduced us to that they'll help graduates, high school graduates, trying to get into automotive trades or trades in general.

Jason

So depending on where you're watching this or where you're listening to this, we'll try and do our best to leave that information in the show notes or in the description box down below. So you guys can take a look at those guys. Just because we say to give, go over there, take a look, read what they're writing, listen to their mission statement, see what they're doing. If you feel inclined to help them out, by all means, I'm sure that they would be greatly appreciative to help push those motives in that next generation of kids and students of moving them into the trades and stuff like that. speaking of Social medias and we're trying to take a little bit of a twist here now John Like I was rummaging through Facebook marketplace as I always do a certain time of the morning before my cup of coffee And seeing what was going through there and every time I get on to Facebook marketplace within seconds, I'm frustrated beyond all means people trying to sell stuff that Don't describe it. They don't show pictures. They won't even give a price sometimes But yet they expect you to jump on there one of the ones that specifically jumped out at me was this I think it was an 05 Volkswagen Jetta now they didn't they didn't take a picture of the pretty side they chose to show you the um rebuilt fender on the driver's side and give you this because well they figured it looked prettier that way and they're trying to sell this thing for one two three four dollars so what is that lazy they show you four pictures sorry three pictures the description says it's got 321,000 kilometers so that's like 200,000 miles or almost automatic transmission and it is a diesel so we do know that okay but his description just basically says I've got a 05 diesel in RLY good shape instead of typing out really it's he's lazy again RLY good shape underneath just recently MVI'd so instead of writing the word inspection We use the term MVI, motor vehicle inspection, but he apostrophe e'd it. Needs a little bit of work, daily driven, looking for trades. So either you want to sell it or you want to trade it.

John

Huh.

Jason

You should put a price on these things, guys. Like this is just aggravating that when I see something, don't, okay, so yes, I clicked on it. Normally, when I see something that says a price of one, two, three, four, first in my mind, or maybe audibly, I'll give you a big but at the end, I just, I don't even want to open it. I don't even want to know how bad your ad is. Can you relate to this, John?

John

Oh, I certainly can. I can't believe there's so many cars on marketplace that cost $1,234.

Jason

Right.

John

I mean, I, I'm buying them all. And it's just a minefield lately. I had a hard time selling my 72 Maverick. I mean, I had it on there for a year and a half dealing with clowns and fools and bots and people from another country wanting to send me Walmart gift cards. I couldn't even handle it. I could not handle it. I don't know if I would sell something on marketplace. ever again. I mean, it's a minefield of stupidity and it's the Wild West that is not taken care of at all by Mr. Facebook man.

Jason

But that's just it. Like, so if you guys are just tuning into the Get and Drive podcast for the first time, you don't know really who I am. My day job, I am self-employed and I have a used car lot. I sell cars for a living. I'm biased. I know how it should work. I know how many pictures I should be posting at minimum. I know that the description should be as long as a novel to give you all the details. And I know that the price should always be prevalent. Okay? Couple of things to watch out for. Do not buy a car that the pictures have been taken at night. They're trying to hide something. do not buy a car that looks like it has been recently washed do I think that they their intention was to get it clean so that they could get better picture or wet so it hides the blisters never buy a car in the rain folks no one never never trust an ad that only has one or two pictures they're trying to hide something clearly buddy with the Volkswagen shot two sides of that car with gray fenders on a red car I mean wasn't trying to hide that but the whole point is there's got to be a little bit of etiquette meaning if you're not going to fill out those empty boxes in the description platform on Facebook marketplace if you're not going to fill them all in with something you gotta need oh yeah here comes Paul he's going to show me up now with my website which oh yeah doesn't have much for descriptions but I mean the prices are there the Carfax links are there everything is there there's multiple pictures to every single ad right so yeah that's the whole point when you're trying to sell a car show pictures show what everything is if somebody sends you a message answer them okay I get it is this available that's a trick That's a trick. They've got that, is this available as a quick link that when you're scrolling on your phone, you accidentally tap it as you're scrolling up through the ad and it sends that. It happened to me. But again, make sure folks that if somebody, if you're selling something and somebody sends you a message.

John

There is etiquette on both sides. And I've been a buyer. And I've been a seller, not only of full vehicles and all that parts, collectibles, Hot Wheels, all just everything. And I guess I'm in the minority of being consistent, answering people's questions when I'm a seller, when I'm a buyer. Don't beat the hell out of people on pricing. Oh my God, you talk about somebody that gets an immediate block from me. If I'm a seller and somebody's a buyer and they say, what's your lowest price? Even before they even say anything at all, does this thing run? Will it roll? Will it get on the trailer? Will it drive around the block? Will it drive on a coast to coast road tour? What's your best price? That is block instantly. And, you know, as a buyer, I try to treat people the way I would like to be treated. And I guess I'm in the minority because don't drunk Facebook marketplace. I mean, period. Just don't because you're going to put up a picture of a knife and a picture of your dog and a picture of your big naked belly in a mirror and one picture of the Camaro you're trying to put up. Everybody's seen it. You know, Jason, you've seen it.

Jason

Yeah.

John

And it just drives me absolutely crazy.

Jason

Yeah. And like I said, being in the business, if somebody, if somebody comes onto my lot and sometimes they won't even get out of the car, they'll roll the window down and they'll say, they'll say, what's the best you can do on that? And very, again, when you're in business and you're face to face, it's totally different than being a keyboard warrior on Facebook. Face to face, I have to be polite and I have to be courteous and I have to not potentially turn this customer away. But yeah, they got to smack them in the face verbally.

John

Oh yeah.

Jason

Right. So when somebody, when that, when they throw that out, I'll say, I'll turn it back on them and I'll kinda, with a little bit of smile, I'll say, well, what's the best you do?

John

Yeah, what's the most you'll pay?

Jason

Yeah. And it kinda breaks the ice. Sometimes they'll joke and this and that, but they already know what I want.

John

Sure.

Jason

Right? Is the price on the window my best price? Well, I'd like to hope that it is. I hope it's competitive enough that you'll just come in and take the car for a test drive, sit in it, smell it, like it, drive it.

John

Right.

Jason

And determine that the value is there. Right? So the first words out of your mouth when you walk into a car dealership shouldn't be what's the best you'll do. That's not what we're selling. We're selling value in a car. This car is for sale. It's not...

John

On sale.

Jason

There you go. That's a common... term in the car sales industry this car is for sale it's not on sale.

John

Right yeah that's 100% of the thing and I don't know lately if it's just and what do people get out of this by the way um what is the battle of the bots and bots and people that send you stuff and they want you to play all sorts of Zelle games, say all sorts of Walmart gift card games, and I'll pay you $2,000 for this item that you're selling for 50 bucks. You know, if you'll send me eight grand, I don't do math well. And just all sorts of crap. And I don't understand who gets money out of this, because the only way I can see is if foolish people as a buyer They want to get something and they'll hurry up and send somebody $1,000 to hold a car that doesn't exist, that they've stolen from somebody else's, you know, somebody else's ad. And that stuff is crazy. You have to have as much couth and understanding as a buyer and as you do a seller. Don't just jump in and say, oh, I'm going to buy something tonight. do your research get a specific car you're looking for again do your research make sure that you know if you're looking at a picture and the price is too good copy that picture and throw it up on a on a Google search if you can find that exact picture somewhere else and the price is $72,000 for this car somebody else has it for three grand stolen picture you know don't fall for this Garbage. Don't fall for this garbage.

Jason

And if you're looking for the best price on something that you're trying to buy on Facebook Marketplace, tech tip for you folks, take it from the guy who's been selling cars for almost 20 years. Best price you're going to get on that car is when you're waiving $100 bills in front of the person selling the car.

John

Right.

Jason

Okay. If you show up with cash in hand means you are intending to buy and you're serious. Throwing somebody a lowball offer on marketplace while you're sitting on the shitter is not how you're going to get the best price.

John

That is exactly correct. Everybody says it. Money talks a hundred percent.

Jason

Yep.

John

In-person money, in-person.

Jason

It's easy to pay somebody with PayPal or Zelle or Cash app or whatever you guys are using these days, but you know what works best You know where the best opportunity to get the best deal is? Cash Yeah, we for now it still is king.

John

Now you know you just gonna step on something because I hear I sell stuff on there and I haven't for a while because I'm ****** *** at it but People say I've got something listed for $1,000. Now, say, I'll give you a 450 cash. What the hell else were you going to give me? Jelly beans and an old magic squirrel, you know, or something stupid, you know, three balloons, this magic squirrel and $450. I'm good with that. I cannot even that irritates me so much. If you say I'm going to give you $450 for this, that's my offer. I'm fine with that. But do not say $450 cash. Uh-uh. Again, block.

Jason

So let's go back to Facebook Marketplace for a second and talk about how other folks handle this.

John

Facebook horror stories.

Jason

Right. And we've already mentioned them once in this podcast, our buddy Fred. bless his heart if you know Fred what just is what you get he will speak his mind and he will absolutely 100% positively not sugarcoat it.

John

He's gonna take you to church right now.

Jason

So one thing that Fred pops up on a Facebook group that he has is his conversations between him and potential buyers of stuff that he's trying to sell right and the reason why he created this is because he sells a lot of stuff and he deals with a lot of idiots common things are they'll ask you like obvious questions where the answer is in the ad like what year is that 1982 ship pickup you got there yep yeah no it's in the ad I'm not sure how well some of this stuff is going to come up on screen for you guys if you're watching this but it's pretty interesting that if you don't follow Fred Ashmore or Ashmore Speed and Performance you can find the links to some of his other stuff that he sells as well as some of his groups that he's created and get a good laugh I will warn you there's language yeah if you get offended easily don't go looking for Fred Ashmore But I guarantee you, if you're not offended easily, then you're going to be quite entertained with some of the conversations that Fred shares with some of his groups. Now, John, I cannot read that from there. Paul, you can read it because you're looking at the screen. Would you mind reading that conversation for us?

Announcer

From Fred Ashmore. Not sure there's a comment that boils my blood more than what's your best price directly after you give them a price. Tailgate, Yes, what's the price? Took it with trim, 200 bucks. What's the best price? Never mind, we're done here. The price is $200, not how cheap you can be.

John

That is exactly correct. I have to read that stuff all the time because He's driven halfway across the country to look at something that somebody has for sale, and they're just a goofball.

Jason

The thing that I like the most is that when somebody says, will you meet me somewhere? And especially if this person's been yanking your chain for the last three or four days or weeks or whatever on this item. And I see this posted all the time, and it's a gag, but it kind of gives you the gist of how you deal with these people. And one of them is, get them, you pin a place, that's about two hours away from him and say look meet me here and I'll sell it to you for the price that you just offered it to me for sure you know he just low-balled the guy right meet me here at this hour so if buddy's eager enough to go buy this hundred dollar item that you know is worth a thousand right buddy drives two hours for nothing. And when he gets back on Marketplace to say, Hey, I'm here. And then that's when you drop the bombshell and you say, Well, seeing as how you've wasted my time for the last few or three or four days or weeks, I just thought I would waste yours. Thank you very much. This item is not for sale.

John

Block. Block. Yeah. Give them the pickup place as a local comedy club to your city.

Jason

Yeah.

John

And then talk more. Yeah. You tell you go inside and tell your jokes to them because they ain't running to me.

Announcer

The gist of this one is why do people not reply for a week? And then when you mark it sold, they start messaging a bunch.

Jason

They get mad because you sold it out from underneath them.

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John

But I know I've looked at a ton of horror stories and I follow a bunch of stuff on Reddit. that is that is horror stories and I think the craziest one that I saw I hope I never have this kind of issue is a guy was selling a car and two men came to get it and they were about to about to pay him and the ATF jumped out of the bushes and they arrested everybody and threw everybody on the ground put everybody in the truck and it turns out that the people buying the car were wanted for murder and the cops told him to play along and he did all the way up till the time that he got put in the car and He at the end he asked the cops. So I guess I'm not selling the car, right? They said I don't think so Yeah, so be safe out there people do not give people the option to come to your house.

Jason

No meet them in a public place.

John

Meet them in a public place meet them at a bank meet them at the local police department um I've gone to pick up stuff that people have given me their address and they've had they've called the local police department uh and told them that they're doing a Facebook Marketplace pickup and the police actually came out and sat outside their house wow I thought that was weird I had that happen to me one time.

Jason

Well yeah it's the same thing about you know when you if you're not meeting a public place like a public place is safe for both parties mm-hmm right like if I'm driving down an unknown city or an unknown street and I'm pulling into someone's house and like there there's some crazy *** crap going on next door like are you safe do you want do you get out of the car yeah and chances are if you're buying a car or you're buying something of significant value, you've probably got some cash on you. Like, is this what you want to do is get out of the car with a pocket full of honeys?

John

There's some places you don't. I have a fantastic video. We went to pick up some collectible glasses. drinking glasses. And the lady told us where her house was. She said, no problem. It's the first house on the corner. You turn and you go up the road a little bit. You can find my house. I'm like, no problem. She gave me her address, big giant sign on the side of her house as her address. So we pull up the street, we make a left turn. I don't see anything. We drive down the hill like a quarter mile. We drove through a creek. I had the video. We drove through a ******* creek and we got to a horse farm and we're like, There is no way this is right. We turn around and we came back and we call the lady and she goes, Oh, well, if you drove through the creek, that's too far. So you think you would have told me that. So we get back and we asked her where to go and she gave us the exact address because wherever the pinpoint was for her address on This little globe that we live on was not where her house was in real life So she helped us out we went over and did a porch pickup and we left but oh my god That was a fantastic story about driving through a creek to get some crap from marketplace.

Jason

Well, I've got my own marketplace story, which actually turned out quite well and that is when I bought Dale Jr. the suburban that you see sitting behind me is this was a Facebook marketplace purchase I'm in eastern Canada the thing was listed in just outside of Wichita Kansas so how do you buy something over long distance that a you want to trust that the vehicle is actually there it's tangible it's for sale but be that you're dealing with somebody that's reputable but lucky for me I had somebody that lived or his parents did in the vicinity he was going to visit his parents my buddy Grant and he said I'll go down I'll take a look at it take it for a drive and we'll coordinate this so that the guy doesn't think he's trying to sell it to two people that he knows it's for you and we did that when Grant got there he introduced me to the guy with the camera we did a live And he walked all around the vehicle, got underneath, showed me where the rusty spots were, the spots where that rear cross member was. I knew what I was up against. Right. And the guy, when everything was done, him and I had the conversation to say, Listen, here's the plan. This is going to be a fly and drive for me. Will it drive 2,000 miles back to New Brunswick, Canada? He says, I have zero doubt. in my mind that it will make that I won't make it sure so I we put the deal together granted this is one of those times where I just I simply couldn't negotiate over the phone because if I'm gonna fly 2,000 miles with a pocket full of cash chances are I'm serious I want to make sure that we could nail this down and the whole point I'm trying to make with this story is use your gut It's usually right.

John

Oh, yeah.

Jason

And if you never, if you can honestly say you've never had a gut feeling, you're probably naive. So you shouldn't be put yourself you shouldn't be putting yourself in those situations. Yeah. Take somebody with you. Call your mom, call your dad, call your crazy uncle, best friend, whatever, call somebody that can help vouch for the situation that you're in.

John

Yep.

Jason

Right. Yeah, we've been doing this a long time buying and selling cars. I do it professionally and there is there is a difference When you're doing it professionally versus doing it privately I'm an established business brick-and-mortar store. I've got an office. I've got chairs people can come in and sit down We can talk. I've got a lot full of cars. Well not full moment I've got a lot with cars on it and the whole point is that when you're dealing in that situation It's far more professional. You're far more safe. And yes, there's going to be guys saying, oh, you're just a used car salesman. You take advantage of everybody, blah, blah, blah. Look, I've heard it all and you're not going to hurt my feelings. Okay.

John

Right.

Jason

The whole point, make it, make yourself comfortable in every situation. And when you don't feel comfortable, that's a gut feeling.

John

Use your head, man. Use your head and your gut.

Jason

And another opportunity here is if Facebook Marketplace annoys the crap out of you so bad, there are other opportunities. Racing Junk, who has been a long time sponsor of the Get Out N Drive podcast, has free ads. You can buy, you can sell your crap, and it doesn't cost you.

John

Right.

Jason

Anything you want, whether it's a car, whether it's a bike, whether it's a piano, Sure. Pool table? I ain't helping you move it. Hey, that's out there.

John

Sure.

Jason

Racingjunk.com. I throw that out there as a shameless plug for them, but my goodness, like there's other opportunities. And Racing Junk is just one of them. They support us. Why don't you go out and help support them? Let's go through a couple of more ads here on Facebook Marketplace that I just happened to pull up. This Chevy Halfton, okay. He's selling it for $5,432. That's kind of like the one, two, three, four, but not, if you know what I mean. So just by looking at the main picture, it's a '99 regular cab, two-wheel drive, got some pretty good looking wheels on it. And for a Miramichi truck, it looks pretty clean. If you guys know, you know. But if we go down through the description, in those little spots that you've got to type in, what the frig you're selling mm-hmm he's got the mileage he's got the automatic transmission he's got the color he's got that it's a gasoline engine but he's also got that it's a 1.8 liter engine to tell us that it's a V6 4.3 but in this case he goes to the description to clarify in three sentences that it's a 99 two-wheel drive 4.8 V8 many new parts well tell me what you put on tell me what many tell me what many new parts is very solid old truck not perfect by any means but it's daily and mileage will go up as I drive it every day two sets of wheels that's a bonus so he's got some likely winter wheels and tires that go with this make a cash offer a trade for a side-by-side or something interesting So he is open to offers. He's got a little tiny bit of a description there. He does tell us a lot, but he doesn't say much, if that makes sense. And as we flip through the pictures, you can see the other set of wheels that comes with it, which are just stalkers. And then you kind of just have a quick little walk around. not a bad looking truck I wish we knew what the price was he wanted for it chances are it's not 5432 people more pictures he did not give one picture of the interior he did not take a picture of the dash with the mileage light or the check engine light on because I guarantee it's on in this thing you should have at the very least at the very least six exterior pictures one of each corner one under the under the hood one in the trunk or the tailgate.

John

And they should be in the light.

Jason

In the light, absolutely. You need to be able to see what you're shooting. And then interior pictures, you should have a picture of the driver's seat, the dash, the console, the back seat. If it's got a sunroof, take your camera or your phone, point it up to the roof, take a picture of the sunroof. It's not always clear that a car has a sunroof in pictures. If it's inspected, that's a big thing where we are. We have biannual safety inspections. So if you're selling something that's got three months left on the sticker and you know it won't pass, you're not gonna get top dollar out of it, right? If it needs things to be fixed, then if they're small things, don't advertise their small things, get the damn small things fixed and inspect it. You're gonna get way more money for this thing if you do. A two-year inspected vehicle is worth more than the equivalent one with either no sticker or one that's about to run out. These are all tips, take them and do what you want.

John

Take them and run with it. And if you're a seller, take Barrett-Jackson and turn it off. Just turn that off.

Jason

Yeah, right.

John

Because your four-door 55 Chevrolet without a trunk lid that has chickens living in it is not worth 70 grand.

Jason

No, and one last ad that I wanted to bring up too is the Hyundai Elantra. 2013 Hyundai Elantra, I just saw this today. on marketplace and like I think Paul is that already listed as sold yes it is so seller was asking three grand for it mm-hmm it's low mileage 143,000 kilometers so that's like maybe 82 or 3,000 miles okay automatic transmission we all know what these Hyundai's are like they're likely got a ticking motor the description is lame few bumps and scrapes but all is in good shape New outletter serpentine belt. Needs inspection. Needs plates. But only three pictures.

John

Right.

Jason

Like Buddy sold this with three pitchers and virtually no description. I mean, is the price right? 3,000 Canadian? That's like 2,100 bucks American? Like, I think that's a pretty good price for one of these things.

John

I think down here in the States, that's a $6,000 car.

Jason

Yeah, look, right there. You guys probably can't see it. Listed 23 hours ago. Sure. And he's got it sold all right. So that tells me he had the right price on it.

John

Yeah.

Jason

Had the right mileage on it. But I'm guarantee you, he didn't sell it because of the description.

John

No. Does it come pre-stolen with a busted column?

Jason

The Kia Boys.

John

Yeah. Is that one of the features?

Jason

Yeah, it's pretty stolen. That's why it's mark sold.

John

That's probably right.

Jason

US dollar is at 71 cents Canadian so for every one dollar Canadian You're only getting 71 cents us so There you go Twenty one hundred and thirty six dollars is what is what that car sold for in USD. So wow, that's cheap the whole point of this episode was just to kind of help open your guys's eyes Those I said it earlier If you just don't know and you don't get it just keep scrolling you're not you'll never get it. This is to help you guys Sell your product and if you're buying and you're on the buyer side of things. It's a buyer beware the whole hundred percent to work out for when you're buying stuff online.

John

And if you're trying to save money as a buyer and you buy something that is borderline junk and it breaks your cheap *** don't come back here. Don't even come back here. Yeah, because I'm selling it at a certain price because of what it looks like and how it how it runs. And if you think you're getting cheap for nothing and it breaks, I have no problem with that. Certainly. Paul, put up that thing that I sent you that has the red flags of Marketplace. Yes. Yeah, these are, this is text that are red flags. When you're immediately looking at an ad, just scroll by. It says, just needs a tune up. Keep on scrolling.

Jason

Yep.

John

You know, selling for a friend. Just keep scrolling. My loss is your gain. Run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run. It says brand new motor. First of all, it's an engine. Second of all, it's probably not brand new. it says wants to trade for a similar car why and if so much little to get fixed to get more money out of it why doesn't the seller fix it and those are just giant red flags um along with somebody that's selling a car and you inquire about it you ask about it and they don't return your message run run away I don't care how much you want the car run away.

Jason

In every single one of those scenarios could one of those red flag scenarios be legit 100% mm-hmm absolutely you got grandpa who is 87 years old with his 1985 Cadillac Fleetwood who doesn't do Facebook and granddaughter or grandson mm-hmm is trying to help sell it mm-hmm and sure that's legit but unfortunately you don't know it's legit until you're there in person looking at it and you see grandpa walking over with his cane Mm-hmm right you see the triple-a sticker on the back window He's a premier member, you know. Oh, yeah, so these are things that yes every single one does it couldn't just need a tune-up Absolutely. Mm-hmm. I am NOT spending another friggin dime on this car Just get it out of here. My loss is your game. I'm done spending money on it mechanic special. Is that possible? Absolutely every single one of those red flags could be legit but you'll never know unless you go see it in person with cash in hand to make that lowball offer that they might just say yes get the hell outta here.

John

This next one that Paul has up here it says I'm planning on selling my car yesterday I cleaned it took a bunch of pictures and posted it to marketplace within seven minutes seven minutes of posting it says I had 18 messages from people wanting to buy the car it says I have it priced because it's still a good car as being sold as is yeah but it felt scammy I didn't respond to anyone and he said some of them seem legitimate but others seem scammy said what can I do to protect myself and as a seller it's hard I can't tell you enough do your research look for the same type of item that you have for sale look for that on Facebook look for that on if it's a small thing look for it on eBay do a general internet search on how what's the value of my car there is a bunch of sites out there that can help you like I said do not jump on Facebook and just go ahead and just start ticking away nothing's gonna turn out good from that.

Jason

Here's a good tip. When you're doing Facebook Marketplace, there's always the opportunity to view the profile of the person selling the item. Definitely. So do that. If you don't know who it is, do that. Sometimes it will tell you that you have mutual friends. So you can verify who or what this person is by checking with some mutual friends to say, is this guy legit or this gal legit? If they've only got three friends on Facebook, I'll be a scam. If they've got several hundred, and it says they've been on Facebook since 2012, then yeah, chances are they're probably legit. Because scam accounts do get shut down, they generally don't last for 12 years. But the whole idea is that's the very least you can do is search the person selling it, find out who they are, what they're about. If they don't have any mutual friends, look at their posts. If they're sharing stuff publicly, see when the last time they shared something. If they're selling this red Mazda Miata, scan through their photos and see if you ever see them taking a picture of them driving it or inside of it or in front of their house or whatever. Just sleuth it a little bit. Don't, you know, try not to be naive. Like I said, if you're naive or you don't think you're naive, then you'll know this stuff. But if you are naive, you don't know it.

John

Go look at the person that's selling an item or a person that's potentially buying an item and look and see their feedback. Look and see what other things they have for sale. Again, everything comes right back to do your homework.

Jason

Yeah. Well, I hope that this episode has been a little bit of a help to somebody. I mean, if we only ever help one person and they understand where we're coming from, and they take some of this advice great we hope that this helped and we hope that you spread the word think that we're just a bunch of raving old men lunatics telling you how to do things and whatnot well now power to you I am too so get off my lawn this is what this is what we see this is our experience and we've made mistakes I've been scammed on Facebook marketplace I still don't have my 40-foot shipping container that I bought five years ago wow um again and I did research I looked the company up I found out who they were I went to Google Street Maps and found out where their business was it was it seemingly was legit at the time 2,000 bucks out the window I should know better 2,000 bucks for a 44 C can I mean at the time they were going for two to 2,500 bucks now they're like 4,000 bucks so yeah that was a great talk I mean I learned a little bit but also I hope that you guys did and that's what we're trying to do looking forward to next year we do have a couple of new potential partners with a national get Out N Drive day one of them is Fred Rod you guys don't know who or what Fred Rod is it's an annual event that takes place it's a three-day uh event over the weekend over a weekend in August in the capital city of New Brunswick where I am in Fredericton um this year they're happy to announce that uh Sean who is the what no way guy uh on Instagram TikTok Facebook all over the place he's going to be making a visit uh if you don't follow Sean which I'm sure that you do if you follow us you probably follow him he just recently did the danger Ranger 5,000 down there at the Freedom Factory It was his second visit down to one of those events. He's done a kind of a pinks all out race with Justin Danger Nunley. And if you don't know who that guy is, he's the listen guy on TikTok who does a bunch of that stuff. So he's going to be at the Fred Rod show this year, as well as who are they eastbound and down. So if you guys are familiar with Smoking the Bandit, these are a tribute to the Smokey the Bandit, and they will have some vehicles. They'll be impersonating the cast and crew of Smokey the Bandit right down to Burt Reynolds, Jackie Gleason, and the follow that played snowman Jerry Reed. And by the looks of the picture that's up on the screen, I hope they bring every single one of those cars, because that would be absolutely awesome. the cut-off Pontiac whatever it was what was that a Le Mans yeah and of course the smoking you see Smokey the Bandit cars all the time not that they're not great but it'll be awesome to see some of those other cars and these characters and from what I understand they do not under any circumstance break character which I think is absolutely great so it'll be good to see these guys as well as Sean Umsheed from What No Way and it'll be a pretty good show last year if you if you were there you know that Bad Chad was there as well as Mike Hall from Rust Valley Restores and they generally try and get some big guests in to this show they have agreed to be a partner or a ambassador of National Get Out N Drive Day so we'll be sending them some stuff and if you are in the New Brunswick area and choose to go to that and register your vehicle you'll be getting some drive day stickers as part of that package as well so looking forward to that.

John

Well I had I certainly had fun warning people about um about marketplace because that place is a freaking minefield.

Jason

Yeah absolutely I mean like I said I'm in the business I deal with that on a microcosm every day um with live people um some of the strange buying and selling things But at the end of the day, when you're going and you're sitting down and you're specifically looking for an item to be serious and to be in the market for something, you hope that the person selling what you're looking for is just as serious as you are, that they're actually a person, and that the vehicle actually exists. So again, we hope that we kind of help guide you through some of the what to do, what not to do's of Facebook Marketplace. I think this was a great episode. I think it was very educational, and despite the fact that we may or may not have made a fool of ourselves in front of some people, I really don't care.

John

If I help one person, it's gonna be awesome.

Jason

You helped me today, John.

John

I did help you, so I'll see you next time.

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