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Transcript
Announcer
You're listening to the Get Out N Drive Podcast Fueled by AMD with your hosts John Custom Car Nerd Meyer and Jason Olde Carr Guy Carr, we'll be bringing you gearheads, everything you've never wanted to know about cars and why they should be on the road and not in your garage. Are you ready to Get Out N Drive?
John
Welcome back to another episode of the Get Out Drive Podcast Fueled by AMD. I am John Custom Car Nerd Meyer.
Jason
And I'm Jason, Olde Car Guy Carr.
John
Anybody's been watching anything having to do with Automotive News lately. Your feed has probably been jammed with our guest. Today, his screen name on his social media is Bobby Adams World. We have Bobby, Bobby Adams with us today. He is the person that missed out on bidding on a '56 Continental and I've seen a lot of people have posted about. About this issue and I want to make sure that Bobby was available to let us know what's going on from the horses mouth.
Jason
Bobby, tell us who you are and what it is that you do for a living. What makes your mark here on the Internet today.
Bobby
OK, yeah. How is everything going and nice meeting you guys, Jason and John here. So my name is Bobby Adams. Bobby Adams the Third, actually. And I have been a classic car dealer my entire life. I'm actually third generation. My grandpa started doing classic cars in the 50s when the cars from the 30s and stuff were considered antique. So he's been around for all from the beginning of all the auctions. From Barrett Jackson to Cruise, everything. So you really made his mark. And then my dad got into the business. He was doing a lot of the muscle cars, corvettes and stuff. And then I grew up around it. I've been going to classic car shows an auction since I was a little kid. My parents even met in the Corvette club, so it wasn't for cars. I wanted to be here. I've been doing cars my entire life, so like being growing up around it. I was flipping cars in high school. I've never had really had a real job. It was always doing cars, so I was flipping cars in high school and then started helping restore with my dad. Then I just got it. I love buying and selling. It was my favorite thing. So I connected with the, I was younger, with the Corvette dealer in town and helped him out, and then I was doing stuff with my dad and then I and opened my own dealership when eBay started. I got big on just doing a lot on eBay and then just following the trends as they go.
John
So you're certainly no spring chicken to automotive auctioning and how the process works, correct?
Bobby
No, I like I say I've been there. I have pictures of myself as a little kid at these auctions, so I bought a lot of cars.
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Jason
When you when you talk about auctions, we're not just talking about buying and selling like we're talking about, just the whole experience being around it. Don't take this the wrong way. You don't look like a spring chicken. You've been you've got some experience under your belt with the with life and with these auctions. Tell us some highlights, some experiences, some great experiences that you've had and some maybe some specific cars that you. There's just so memorable that you've bought over the years, or that you've sold even.
Bobby
Memories of buying stuff at the fun. Just the whole experience. The fun of going to these auctions with your friends and I take my family with me and my wife and she was. My. Girlfriend at the time going to the auctions but going to auctions, buying sometimes truckloads of cars, and I literally like going to like the smaller. Options is kind of my favorite when before really the Internet was out there. There's a lot of like small auctions all over the place. I really love the cruise auctions back in the day. Because people would bring, you know, there's cars you never see, like collections coming out. And I would buy all kinds of cool. Like, I really love Cadillacs and Lincolns like the big American cars. So I bought some really cool, cool cars out there. I, you know, I would sell. I wouldn't sell that much at auction. But during the there's a kind of heyday of bear. Jackson, there's times me and my friends would kind of partner up on cars. We'd sound like 30-40 cars through the auction at once, and that was pretty crazy at the time. And, you know, you weren't competing with much with the online stuff. So yeah, it was like almost every car would do crazy money. So it was a it was a lot of fun time. You know, the specific cars, it's hard to. I've done so many cars, it's hard to like, really pick out the specific ones. There's one actually in Monterey, CA. I bought a 70 Hemi CUDA clone convertible. That went through there and I bought it for like. If they did add, they said it was a clone and I bought it like $35,000 or 39,000 was actually really cheap for that car. As a clone, I get home and I start looking at the numbers. Like, what was this car originally? And everything started coming up as a real Hemi CUDA from the VIN number to the number on the engine to everything. And I'm like, this can't be like someone didn't make a mistake. Again. Long story short, we hadn't up against some professionals that knows mopars just some one guy. I can't remember his name. Go VA got him involved and turns out some guy was re popping these things back in the 90s and making, you know, trying to scam people, making real Hemi cudas and put them out in the market. And there's five of them, and four of them. Got revenge, but this one never did. And it was like the ultimate clone. You could say that was a crazy story and everything. And I that car I sold on eBay the first day and it sold for, and I did really well on that car. But it was like a pretty crazy story. So.
John
Yeah, if anybody you want looking at your stuff, it's Galen Govier. He is incredible.
Bobby
Yeah,.
John
Did you say that car got aftermarket data tag.
Bobby
Yeah, Whoever did the five cars did them to basically fool people, but they like they went and stamped, they got original VIN tags and stamped them and everything.
John
Wow.
Bobby
Yeah, here's like a full numbers matching Hemi CUDA and realized I didn't sell it as that obviously I sold it, I sold as the ultimate clone.
John
Sure. Wow. I mean that, that's a whole other story in itself.
John
That's bordering on jail time for builder situation.
Bobby
Yeah. I think the guy did go to jail for that one. But the story I heard. But.
Speaker
Wow.
John
That is some craziness.
Bobby
Yeah, but it's.
Jason
As a used car dealer myself, I attend auctions. I've been doing auctions now for almost 20 years and you know, like when you're doing it as a used car late model stuff, there's generally not much that jumps out at you. There's a few experiences that you have win some, you lose, some make money, lose money. Whatever happens to be. But as you as you roll on and I guess what we're building up to here is the experiences that you have in your business creates opportunity to not do the same thing. Things over and over again. So when guys go to the auction, we see people at the auction all. The. Time you know how they bid. You know their practices. You get to know, you know, should I be waiting till the last minute and jump in there? Or do I be right on top of the bidder as it as they get next bid and just keep rolling on and rolling on. Have you experienced it in over the years? Do you have a certain bidding? I'm not going to ask you to reveal it to all the people out there, but do you find that you have certain bidding practices when you're going and looking at certain? Like, do you know how to read those auctioneers?
Bobby
Oh yeah, you have to. I mean, there's every auction is different, you know, you got the really fast pace auctions where you have to pay attention and then you got the slower pace of, you know, like bottoms or RM, where it's like very slow and you don't. I mean, it's very clear, you know, who's bidding who's not. But that's a fast pace auctions. Yeah, you do. You know there's times where if you start bidding too fast, they'll run you up like there's no one else bidding against you. And that is one thing you really have to be careful for. So I'm.
Jason
Ghost bidders.
Bobby
I don't go crazy. I get my bid in there to show I'm. I'm serious. Then I kind of hold back and see where the auctions going and just kind of feel the room, you know, see where usually when someone's bidding, they're the ring men are out running after them. You don't see it happening. You get that feeling. Well. They're who's out there. So you have to pay attention. I guess the number one deal with classic car auctions is don't drink and bid at those auctions. That is. That is the number one rule because then you don't. You lose. You just getting too involved and that's when issues happen. So that's why my number one rule to go into. I don't take advantage of the free bar till afterwards.
John
Yeah, don't. Don't let your ego get involved and don't listen to the strokers that are behind you the, the pretty ladies with their hand on your back.
Bobby
Yeah. Now, there's plenty of times where I was. I got off on a car and there's a kick there. Car over the weekend I was on the car at 25 and then also I went to 30 really fast and I'm just I just started walking away and all of a sudden I'm back. In at 25 again so.
John
How do you think that happened? Or you don't know?
Bobby
Yeah, I. Yeah, exactly.
John
Good gravy. Well, I know that you're like you have explained your background and everything, and you're certainly not new to this whole situation and what went wrong. On the video that you posted, I mean it seemed like a regular day. You're out there, you're bidding, you're doing your thing. Some things happen. Some things don't. Some things go your way. Kind of play us through. What? What happened in your head? What were you thinking and kind of kind of play us through the day?
Bobby
Yeah. So we it was actually the last day and those that was the second to last car through. So I have a social media girl that does my social media helps and but she follows me around and like get content and educate people and it's kind of showing behind the scenes of what I do. That's what the purpose was for. And honestly I went back there to pay for another car I bought. Earlier in the sale earlier a couple of days earlier and I saw these two Lincolns going through and I'm like those were not on the list and I think they were reruns. So I stayed to watch them. And the black. There's a white one and a black one. I like the black one better. Looked it over and need a couple little things, but pretty nice cars. So I'm. I'm like, I'm bidding on that car and. They gonna block. They were trying to get bids in the 40s thirty 5 and then it went down to 20 and then just went up to 30 and quit. And they're trying to fight for bids. I don't know if you had any money at all to tell you the truth. Like at the 30, I think because they're trying to get someone to bid again and then I they're looking for 32. I said 31. They took the bid and then the order was in the front row and they were really working him to drop his reserve because he had a higher reserve on it. I don't know what it was, but it was a high reserve and it took a while. I mean that first video was shortened up but it took a while. I mean they were really working the guy and working the guy and we're just waiting and waiting and waiting and. You feel like a long time, but it's probably like a minute, you know, but it's a long time when you're sitting there and they lifted the reserve and they called out any more bidders, any more bidders, any more bidders, 323332? And no one's bidding. And then he said, took the hammer, sold and right at that same moment, it was like the one of the ring and yelled out for a bit. But he already had the hammer dropped and went sold 2-3 like it sold came out the hammer dropped, and then he just started picking it up again. And that's when I lost them. You just sold the drop the hammer. And then they tried to belittle me by saying, would you watch the morning announcements? I'm like, well. No, I wasn't there that morning. You know, I don't know what the morning they all like. I know there's some special rule that I didn't hear and I like, but that's not, he said soul because I've been in the position of. Way thinking too long and then then raising my hand in that same kind of instant thing. And they went with, you know, they already sold it too late. You know, you should have waited that long. And that was my fault. I should have waited that long. If you're interested, get your bid in there. Because they were working that car for a while, you know, like what takes that long to think about it? Well, later. On in the video I did watch morning announcements from that exact. You know, auction that day and they said when that hammer drops, you know that's it's transferred, ownership is transferred and that's you know. When? Back in the old days, the cruise auctions and all those auctions like it was hammers, slams. That car is sold. There's no question about it and I just felt that was taking advantage. That was BS. And then I felt like looking back, someone made a comment earlier, actually last night about how they went up a couple more bids. Well, who was the third person? That because I think it ended at like 30-4. But then that happy another person bid and they're trying to get me to bid again and I'm like, you know, I'm not playing this. This game I was just upset, and then afterward, well, you could have gone into office and complained, but I would have got nowhere with that. I've just been paid more money for the car, basically. So, it just I didn't like the way it happened, and I thought it was ridiculous, and we posted that experience. I had no idea to take off like they had it. Did you know it wasn't my? Intention I was just trying to like get content of what it's like bidding and then that happened so.
John
Well, and the person that had been above you, the one or possibly 2 mysterious people that have been above you, were they Internet bidders or floor bidders?
Bobby
It had to be a floor bed and again I was so right there. It was like to my right because I like to stand up kind of on the stage to kind of watch what's going on. But that time I lost what's going on because I was heated in the moment, but they took it from somewhere in the back. But then again, I got to rewatch it again because the to someone said to, well, how did a third bidder get involved if? You know? Possibly. So I don't know if they ran. It again you know. To get it to get him a run up again, I don't know, but I have to watch. Rewatch it again.
John
Wow. Well, that's a sticky situation.
Bobby
Yeah, is that I'm not a new bidder there too. I just, you know, I've been there. I have a low number there. I've been going there since I was a kid, you know? And there's options. And it just. I just thought it. Was. A pretty not a good thing to do, you know.
Jason
So if you guys are a little bit lost and don't know exactly what we're talking about, I'm going to get Paul to run that clip right now. We'll insert that and let you guys see and we'll do the condensed version just so that everybody knows exactly. What was going on?
Speaker 5
3131 got 3132. Reserves are 31. Did you wanna get 2? I have $31,000. Did anybody get 32,000? Two 2332.
Jason
Hammer goes down. He says sold takes a couple more bids and clearly you can see Bobby's upset as I would. Be.
Bobby
That's both you slam and sold.
Jason
You know, few profanities come out there but nevertheless. We know that the hammer comes down and I guess what I wanted to go with this and where I wanted to go with this. Was. Rules of the auction. And so I googled it. I know that there's AAA rules at an auction for arbitration. There's rules for everything that most auctions follow those same set of criteria and what it is that people say. And I'm going to read to you what it says here. And Google it says a vehicle is officially sold at an auction when the auction bangs their hammer. After the bidding stops, indicating the highest bidder, which in this case in my opinion was Bobby, has purchased the item. So when the time came that that hammer went down, he didn't just hammer and take more bids. He hammered, he said, sold. And yet he took two more bids, neither of which were Bobby's. And that's where the questions start coming out in the comments to say well. One thing I need to make clear is that when you go to an auction, the auctioneer has the final say period, regardless of what happens. That's usually the general rule of thumb. Meaning, when that hammer goes down, he says, sold, it's done. You missed out. Too bad for you. The problem here is he said, sold. He hammered down, took two more bids and then sold the car to somebody else. So that's where the heat comes in. That's where Bobby got upset. Justifiably, as far as I'm concerned, being in that position myself. I've lost bids. Like you said earlier, when you're just a little too late to either raise your hand or click that button on an online bid and they take somebody else and they sell it. You snooze, you lose. Bobby wasn't snoozing here. He was on the block. He was taking his bid. He wanted to buy that car. Nobody else wanted it. Why did they wait so long? And why did they take bids after the fact? So I know that there's going to be people come up on both sides of this. But by the rights or by the rules of the auction. When the hammer comes down. And the auctioneer says sold that should be the final say. As far as I'm concerned. Bobby, I know that you've lived this, you've been a part of, that you in the heat of the moment. You had some few choice words, but at the end of the day, you know that you, you, you, you, you don't have much to stand on because it's the auction against you. And like Vegas, it's like Vegas. When you go to an auction, the house always wins.
Bobby
Exactly.
Announcer
Mm-hmm.
Jason
So. As we've kind of entered into the discussion talking about right or wrongs, obviously you feel wronged in this position. But where did, where did you go after this all transpired? You did not get the car? The auction says. I'm sorry, you know, this is the rule. We sold it to Joe Blow over here for the 33 or 34. Whatever. It was. What happened after that? What happened after that? All went down on the block.
Bobby
Well, so you saw a friend of mine was with, went up to the one of the ring men that I was dealing with and he tried to say though he never said sold, which is you can see it right there like clear hear it and even watch back the video again even the owner of the auction company was sitting on the stage. Watching this whole thing happened and just didn't say nothing. I was upset. I mean, what am I going to do? You know, I could have gone, fought, fought it and I just, you know, I was just upset about it and flustered. And the day is just another car. But. Basically, I was we were just talked by social media and I'm just going to post this and see what people think about it, you know, because I could have gone up there and fought it with everybody. But where is that going to get me? I know it was going to get me anywhere because they're pretty stubborn and we know that they're stubborn now because look at all this stuff's happening and all they do is send me a generic. Letter from their experience team, not even from one person in the auction. But signed the auction from the experience team, saying that just the way it is, look at section 17. You know, like so after the auction, I just went in the office and paid for my other car and left and it's still irritated about it. That's when I pulled up the video and they and they go fill me watching the video. Mike. Did I miss something and I didn't and I? Yes. Chalked it up, it is to another day, but I figured I'm just going to share this with people and see what they think you know. So and then it snowball and blew up into what it was. So what it is now.
Speaker 5
It's.
John
It's definitely not something to get into legality of it, but. I know she'll bidding exists. And it's really scary. I've been involved. I've been in your shoes. I've been in all the restoration industry for more than 30 years. And primarily I was doing cleanup on cars that were headed to. Auction. And I've been at an auction, sold cars at an auction. I understand the whole process as much as much as you do. And it's scary for me to sit there and watch that cause. I've been there as a seller. I've been there as a buyer, and it's scary on both sides to not know fully what's going on. And your money to get there, your money, everything is completely out of your control for the next 10 minutes. And that's entirely scary to.
Bobby
Yes.
Jason
Yeah, and like Bobby said too, is if you're going to sit there and you're going to fight with them, what are you fighting for? You're fighting. You're fighting with them to, to give them your money.
Bobby
That helps great.
Jason
How bad do you really want? I mean, yes, you're in the business. They don't know your business specifically. They don't know that you didn't have a buyer lined up for. That specific car. That it, you know, it could have been a quick in and out for you, this is your livelihood. They don't care, because guess what? They're going to get their seller fee. They're going to get their buyer fee. They're going to get their whatever's on the other end and they're making money. They don't give a **** who they sold it to. They're just going to move. On to the next guy. Right. So at some point you've got to say, OK, you know we we've in my business, we've been to the point where we've not gone for a while. We've been the pig headed guys that say, you know what you're going to treat me like that as a. Buyer. I'm not going to buy from you. There's lots of other auctions around granted in a, you know, a. Small. Area where we live there are only few that we get to go to, but nevertheless you got to suck up pride at some point. Is this going to affect you going back to meet them and buying other cars in the future?
Bobby
You know. I guess we'll wait and see that one, you know, because I'm looking at. I don't look at, you know, the company that there's a car. I'm like, I don't care who has it. You know, if they're going to. They're going to be petty and try to ban me or something like that. I will see about that, but I don't think I deserve that either. I just tell my story. I had no intention of what happened. It's I just put out my experience and that the people. Took it to where it took it, you know? So it wasn't never my intention to. For you know, I'm just going to get on meat and I just want to see what people think. So I don't know. I don't. I don't know. I don't have an answer for that one yet. So, you know, if there's a car I like, you know, again, I don't care who's selling it. I still, if I can buy it. Have to buy it so we'll see what happens in the future on that, you know, I know there's risk. Will every auction. It's you. Every auction has its thing. You got to be careful with and I go in there knowing that and it's part of the part of the game I guess. But it should be you know the one thing about like these online auctions like I do a lot on bring a trailer. Yeah. It's very transparent. I mean it's like the only if you miss it, it's because your internet's down or you did wait till the last second. But there's the people are bidding are the people bidding. There's no people bidding up there. There's you have your minute, that's clock ticking down, no one's going to short the clock, you know? So I just had a car and a little while ago, a few hours ago. And it did way more than I thought it was going to do. And the car yesterday, same thing. And then so I don't know if that's the future of where this is all going. I know people still love the live events, but. The Yeah, you can see right there. It the Internet is pretty cool too, because it's like you, you really get to know what you're buying, you know, and selling where that Lincoln for instance, I know nothing about that car. I can tell you one thing, the car to tick in the motor when it's going up on the stage. I just kind of know those things have bad. Lifters. Or the sticky lifters or rods on them then cause that. I know to fix the. Fix some. It's a few you know, a couple of grand, but I know that. But the average person doesn't, you know, or this you, it's explained, you know the history. And that's where I think the Internet auctions. Lose their actions win because the live auctions, the history of the car gets lost. Like I buy cars at auctions. I don't know the history where the car come from. What's the story on it? What's the? Sometimes the stories will get me to buy a car more than the car and at the works in cases also for other people. So that's why I like the Internet. Per say is you can really get that story out there and really tell what works, what doesn't work. How's? The drive. So on so.
John
Yeah, on bring a trailer, is there closing? A soft close.
Bobby
Yeah, 2 minutes off close.
John
OK.
Bobby
So I mean, you can drag out. I had a car took an hour to end once people just went back and.
John
Well, and if anybody doesn't know, if anybody doesn't know what a soft close is, eBay is going to be starting. I hope not. But starting to do soft clothes which is on an auction at the end of the specified time. If a bidder bids at that time they let it run.
Bobby
Forth and.
John
Down and if somebody else bids it pushes the clock back 2 minutes. It's different with different online auctions and things, but the soft clothes is all set up in their in their bidding, information tells you. How long it's going? To be.
Jason
So one thing I did want to mention too is again just in John and myself in our initial discovery of what was going on here and with Mika, I took it upon myself to e-mail mecum to see what kind of a response we could get. I want to read that e-mail to you guys. So that everybody knows, you know what was said. UM. I basically wrote dear Sir or Madam, I have a question regarding when a vehicle specifically ends on the auction block. Is it when the hammer comes down or when the auctioneer says sold? I witnessed a recent car get, quote UN quote, sold when the auctioneer both hammered the gavel. Han said, sold, then continued to take more bids than selling it to a different. There for more money. This has me confused. Looking forward to your reply and as of the recording of this podcast, I have not received a response back, nor do I likely anticipate getting a response other than a generic reply e-mail from that, but we will keep you guys posted. And just to see, I mean we kind of know what the answer likely is going to be is it's going to be whatever they want to do. But at the end of the day, it's easy to get heated in the moment because you know, if you're in the car business like myself, like Bobby, like John has been in the years past, it's easy to get caught up. It's easy to be, you know, in the hype and the excitement of a fast-paced auction that's going on. And when things don't quite go your way. A couple of things are going on in your head. 1 is what the hell just happened? 2 If Bobby was willing to spend more money on that. Her. He probably would have had the bidding continued on a regular back and forth, but it skipped A heartbeat there for a moment or two, and when he thought he won. Your mind changes. You're in a different mindset. I won that car. I'm done, and then all of a sudden there's two or three more bids. And you're like, what the heck is going on? So it it's different. It's so fast-paced. Things happen so quickly, even though, you know, Bobby, you said they don't. It was drawn out trying to get those bids. But once that actually. Out there it happened very quickly. And you, you don't have time to react. And when you do and when you feel wrong, it's easy to react the way that you did and be upset as again, like I said, I would be too. And I and I've been there, certainly not at the caliber of a classic car we're talking you know, late model stuff on my end but nevertheless. A lesson learned you've got to. There's something you got to take away. I don't know what that take away is yet. Bobby, you probably don't even at this point either, but. What advice would you have to give to somebody, whether they are a seasoned car collector, buyer, seller or somebody that's just jumping into this? What do you think would be the advice that you could give to them to help prepare them for some of these? Well, ****** situations that may just. Happen to pop up.
Bobby
Oh man, that's a good question I. I guess I'll start with I'm just. One thing I do like someone did ask me recently, I'm just skip that I'm I come back to that question somebody asked me what are you looking to get out of this? I'm like, I'm just looking to get the games. To. Stop. You know, like be more like just stop playing games with people. I guess. And that with some of these auction companies and be more, you know integrity, you know, have more integrity. And what you do because I see so many games getting played, but. Just be aware, you know, going back to your question is just be aware of what's going on around you. You know, stand up for yourself and if something like this happens and I think it happens a lot, I think I just got lucky enough to get it on film personally, because I've heard some stories. I've heard a lot of people come up with me, a lot of stories. Different stuff that goes on every you know, with them, their experiences. But yeah, I guess I don't have a particular, but just be aware you know just don't. Some people, I've heard people little sit in the back, but I like sit on front. Just I like watching the audience. Because that's going to tell you a story. Don't watch the auctioneer. Watch the audience, and don't bid too fast, like just. I like the slow momentum down when I'm bidding so. Because when they get the momentum fast and everything, that's when stuff gets. That's when you get to take advantage of his buyer so.
John
Yeah. So your so your take away is stop, look, listen, it's like waiting for a train.
Bobby
Yeah. And then slow momentum down, they, they, they, they try to like get you know, $5000 hammers, I mean that's what their goal is to get you up fast. But I like to take it down like if they're five come down to trying to ask 55,000 I'd say well 51 and I'll slow it down and sometimes they don't want to take my bid, but if I'm the only real bidder they will take it so.
John
Yeah.
Bobby
And that's one thing being in in. With a live auction being there is a big difference than being a live auction sitting at your computer at home because you can't slow the auction down. You're kind of stuck. What they're asking for on the computer so.
John
I was talking to someone else and I said do you think that your situation will implement? Not having personal recording devices. At any auction.
Bobby
I've actually heard that same thing. Also, I don't know I think that would you know if they do that, then they're definitely hiding what they're doing. You know, I think it's crazy because people want to record their experience. I mean, some people, it's like this is they're buying their dream car. They want to get pictures of it and video of it. And this whole experience. You can't tell them they can't do that. Then what's the point of having an auction?
Jason
In a lot of cases, people aren't recording to catch anything.
Bobby
Yeah, I'm not going to catch anything but.
Jason
Exactly, exactly. And that, and that's what it's all about as a car. Dealer. Same as you, Bobby. We know crazy things. Go on at auctions. They're trying to get bids that may not be there. They try and make you bid against yourself. I do a lot of Internet bidding, so. When it when it starts going fast-paced and you can see that it's a floor bitter or that it's an online bidder when it's you in the floor, yeah, I can slow that down a bit. Because I don't know if I'm bidding against myself and there's just someone there clicking the auctioneers, tap in the girl on the shoulder of the computer to take that next bid and you're bidding yourself. Whereas if it's you and another online bidder, you can see those numbers, flip flopping back and forth. And it's the same thing at a live auction, you can see you. And you can see buddy over there waving his hand or nodding his head or whatever, like you said, getting control of that situation. If there's any take away here today with this conversation is simply be aware you are in charge of your bidding. The auction is in charge. Of selling. They don't always coincide at the same time, unfortunately. So Bobby, it was really good to a hear your side of the story, get that experience, but also to teach our listeners that when you see something online that may be just a quick little, you know, 30 or 45 second video, there's more to that. Story and that's what we wanted to approach here today on this podcast was to give you an opportunity to tell your whole side of the story, not just. Get. That little snippet and in hopes that maybe we'll get a resolution to this and why they did what they. Did. Do they have a good? The reason? Probably not other than auction companies being auction companies, but at the end of the day, we would love to be able to have them tell their side of the story. We invite them to do so. Chances are it probably not going to happen. But anyways, Bobby, thank you. Thank you so much for taking some time to talk with us today. Is there any anything else that you want to add to this before we before we get out of here?
Bobby
No, just to follow my channels and stuff and check out what I'm doing, I'm always buying cars. If you don't want to send it to an auction, send it over. And I have some cool stuff I'm working on. So yeah, just follow me. That's all I'm asking. So that'll.
Jason
Be awesome. There you go, folks. If you want to go over and follow Bobby Adams world, he's got lots of social media links. Most of their looks like he's on Reddit. He's on YouTube all the social medias under the same name, and you can go there, follow him, see what it is that he does. Very interesting guy, very interesting story. And he's got lots of.
Speaker 5
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John
What drives you?