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Announcer
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John Meyer
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Jason Carr
We have. We've always kept it lighthearted. We've done a lot of entertaining. We've talked to some really famous and some really wonderful people right in this episode. MHM. We're going to get controversial.
John Meyer
Don't go political on me.
Jason Carr
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John Meyer
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Jason Carr
It is political, but we're not going political.
John Meyer
Got to.
Jason Carr
We're going to try and keep as much. Of. The government BS out of this topic as we can because there's a lot of government BS in this topic that we've got to kind of.
John Meyer
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Jason Carr
Weed through. If you don't know what I'm talking about and you're tired of listening to me ramble. Tonight, today, on this episode of the Get Up N Drive Podcast fueled by AMD, we are talking about. State and provincial vehicle safety inspections. Now I know, I know. You guys just got mad. Your blood pressure went up a few points because some of you are. Ohh no, the government shouldn't be getting involved and mandating anything. And some of you guys are like, yeah, there's a lot of crap on the road and we need to figure out a way to deal with it. We're breaking all of that down in this episode. We're talking a lot about. Government and their role in public safety. John, you live in Illinois, right? Does Illinois have state vehicle inspections?
John Meyer
It does not have and I don't know if it matters because I am in a metro Saint Louis Ish area, but take that bubble out of the equation in Illinois in general. I think you can get a VIN tag. Set up with license plates in Illinois and they never have to see your car. It's so easy to get a car and get license plates for a car and in Illinois because I drive junk, I drive old junk. My newest car is in 89. As with every other state vehicle inspection or vintage cars is from current date 25 years old and older. They don't stick their nose. My business at all. None. That's one of the reasons why I do it. Newer cars have to have a emissions inspection. Where it's OBD 2 only, there used to be a sniffer state. There's no mechanical visual inspection for any kind of emissions. There's no visual for emissions. There's nothing. If you have an OBD 2 car, your check engine light is not on. And your vehicle says super, you get a plate sticker.
Jason Carr
That's Illinois. So for those of you who don't know, I'm in eastern Canada, I'm in this province of New Brunswick and as of. I believe 2019. We left the annual inspections and now we go to a biannual, which means once every two years. It is a safety, it's a vehicle safety inspection. We don't do sniff inspections or OBD 2 inspections emissions. None of. We are a province of about 800 and change 1000 people and we are one of the few provinces left in Canada that still do motor vehicle safety inspections. I'm a used car dealer. We have to have our cars inspected as part of what we do and because I am a repair shop. We do safety inspections and I know a lot of people look at. That, and they say well. Of course, he'd be in favor of he's the one selling the inspection. Well, I haven't told you whether I am or not. And. In New Brunswick, what our safety inspection checks is. It's kind of a go. No go on breaks. Meaning there is a recommended thickness that those brakes need to be to pass inspection. Tires. Tires have to be A at least two. Sorry 330 seconds or higher because at 230 seconds or at the where bar they're done. Suspension is if there's play in the steering components. If there's play in the ball joints or the suspension components. Lights have to work. Horn has to work. All your windows have to. Work properly as intended. And your windshield cannot have any visible cracking or stirring in the wiper area, so there's a lot of little things like that that we check when it comes to lights on the dash. Check engine lights don't care. ABS lights and airbag lights. Yeah, those are issues. So those are things that have to be looked after and we all know as vehicles get older, a lot of that stuff becomes more prominent when it comes to lights on the dash or what have you. And the last thing is exhaust is 1 when it comes to fluids leaking out of the vehicle. The only one that. They really care about is fuel. And brakes, so you can't have fuel visibly dripping out of the vehicle or brake fluid so. When you break all of that down and you look at the population versus the rest of Canada, we do. Biannual Nova Scotia. Does biannual PEI, Prince Edward Island does still annual. And they're the only province that still does that. As we move into Newfoundland, they do annual inspections. I believe maybe I could be standing corrected on biannual, but they do safety inspections. Quebec and Ontario do not, unless. You're moving into the province. With your. Vehicle. Unless you're buying a vehicle. That it needs to be inspected. And then further WI believe none of the provinces, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta or BC you go up north into the Arctic and they don't do inspections up there either.
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John Meyer
I think. All vehicles should have an inspection because everyone is broke as hell. Lazy. And they want to get by on as little as possible. I can't count how many stick built front, suspension, front wheel, drive cars I've seen with the left front. Wheel snapped off of it. Rolling down the highway, doing 70 plus and the left front wheel leaves the chat. All the time I see it all the time. I comment on it to my wife every single time we're driving. It's not from the vehicle being hit, it's because it spits out the left front wheel because the ball joints are worn out on it and we can see vehicles that are 2000, 2005, 2006 kind of sneaks up and we go, oh, we haven't seen one of those before. It was. A 2012. Whatever you want to call it. Do I want government overreach in my house? Do I want government overreach in my car? No. Do I want government overreach in everybody else's car? Oh, certainly because they're stupid and lazy and they don't have want to want to fix their car at all because they're broke. Because I don't want to be out there on the road with somebody else that's going to have the front wheel snap off their car. Hell, we had a big crash and. Because a dodge neon spit the front steering rack out of it, and both wheels were kachow hanging out the front of the car. And there it is, dead in the water and you can't tell me that that person didn't realize that their car drove like Fozzie Bear, Studebaker, and they didn't know it. They just did it to get by. And people that are don't flat out don't want to use their car for anything but a transportation appliance. They ain't going to put no money in their car. The only reason that new cars are staying on the road is because there may not a better, better quality material and they're made to last longer and they're going to go a zillion miles. There used to be 100,000 miles on a car. You get another one. Now cars are going 2, three, 400,000 miles and some of these idiots don't change your oil for. 60,000 miles.
Jason Carr
And you just you hit a couple of topics that I wanted to bring up based on some of the conversation that was going on in the comments of those videos that I had posted and. One of them, Adam Wilson, says they could just do it themselves. Mandated inspections are dumb. So basically what he I think what he's trying to say is if you just look after your own ****, then we'll be fine. And the. Lee installer commented and replied to him saying well, sometimes you have to mandate safety because people are so dumb. You hit on both of those topics. A lot of people just don't have the wherewithal to kind of self govern the safety of their own vehicle, whether it's because they just don't have the knowledge, whether it's because they just don't care, maybe they are dumb.
John Meyer
M.
Jason Carr
But in a lot of cases, I think that we find that it's none of those. It all comes down to money. M. And in 2025, at the day of this recording. I think I can speak for everybody when I say when it comes to money, there just seems to be less and less of it today. So we're all out here. We're driving our vehicles, we're driving them longer than we may be normally, would you and I are exemptions, John, because we do drive the older stuff, but those people who buy a new car every three or four years. Because. Of the supply chain issues that took place during the pandemic. Seemed to trickle on further, so they said, you know what? I can't buy a new car because there's none there. And if I do, the interest rates are so sky High. I can't afford to do that. But now that my car is paid for, I'm just going to keep driving it. So now they don't have car payments. They have maintenance issues. And I'm going to put this in here too, John. I'll let you speak to it as well. This is a. This is a lesson to everyone. If you don't schedule maintenance for your car. Your car will schedule the maintenance for you.
John Meyer
Oh, most certainly at the worst possible time.
Jason Carr
Worst possible time. I heard that from somebody. I can't. I don't even know. Who said that? A long, long. Like we're going back probably 3035 years ago. I heard that and it sticks with me. More comments. In the comments section, people are saying, well look, I am confident. I can look after my own vehicle. Why should I have to go get my vehicle inspected and pay money to have someone do it? To that I say a. I'm with you. I am confident I can maintain my own vehicle. But even if I can maintain the four or five vehicles that I own. I don't maintain every vehicle that's coming at me head on down the highway.
John Meyer
You are right. I'm. I'm going to break this down for people. That's that. That may be a little bit slow.
Jason Carr
And for those in the back?
John Meyer
Now. For those in the back, I'm going to speak more clearly and louder. Do you live in a neighborhood with an HOA? Do you know why HOA's are created? HOA's are created because of this. One or two that decide they want to paint their house purple with spots on it, or they want to do no yard maintenance, or they don't want to do anything. To their yard, every neighborhood has them. Unless you're in an HOA. Some guy that just bought his house 40 years ago and they grew a tube of crap in the front yard and you cannot see the house anywhere. Now relate that to vehicles. Same thing, same exact, same exact thing. If you didn't have the HOA governing over the top of you, you might be that person that's going to have the tube of crap in your front yard and trees that no one can see. Your house, which devalues your house, which devalues your neighbor's house now. And you can apply that. If you don't, you buy a car and you don't do nothing to it for. Ever. It devalues your car and it also devalues the performance of your car and it devalues everybody else's car. When your piece of junk has parts that fly off it and smash into 30 other people and a busload of nuns and puppies. Easy, easy to transfer those two things.
Jason Carr
It and it is for sure the biggest thing that I get out of a lot of these comments. I'm going to read another one here from Instagram, from a fellow called Old Rugged. And he says inspections are good but should never be done by a company that provides the repair. So maybe independent agency that does this. Big conflict of interest too many times, they say something needs to be repaired just to make money. And I know I do all my own work and they say that I just need a part that I know I just replaced. Look, I am not making light of the fact that there are a lot of crooked shops out there. I was accused of being one myself in the comments of this of these videos. And I'll tell you. We are looking out not only for the best interests of the customer, but we are also looking out for the best interest of us as the people putting these stickers. On. I put a sticker on your car saying it passes my mechanic, who is licensed by the province or in your guys's case, the. State.
John Meyer
Mm-hmm.
Jason Carr
To say yes when this vehicle left, it met all the criteria, the government said it needed to pass a safety. Does that mean that that car is safe? Not in my opinion, on the moment he put that sticker on there, he deemed that based on the criteria of the government set, it got a sticker.
John Meyer
Of course, there's a minimum. There is a minimum value for everything. The rules are made even in racing, racing, anything, NASCAR, whatever you don't race the guy next to you. You erased the rulebook.
Jason Carr
And in in these cases here it's hard for me as the shop or as the shop owner to defend that because a we have to be strict because it's our name and our livelihood being put on that piece of paper that.
John Meyer
MHM.
Jason Carr
Says it's good. MHM. Right. You drive down the road after you leave my shop. And take out a. Family of four. Because your brakes failed. Who are they going to come to? Because you just suspected that like less than 24 hours ago. So we've got to be strict, we've got to do that and we we're not strict. Despite what everyone's going to say, we are not strict because we're in the business of making money on car repairs. We're strict because we need to protect our.
John Meyer
Livelihood. That's true, but either end of the spectrum you have to see that there's the guys that used to go and look the other way and get inspections done. It did, that's correct. And I already know I know the system. You know, I was not a because I don't like mechanical work. Grease gross. I was in in in shops that had mechanical inspections and I was never a licensed inspector but I knew.
Jason Carr
Here's $100 bill. Write me a stick.
John Meyer
All of the hoops that you had to jump through, and I've had enough vehicles that I need to jump through those hoops, both ends of the spectrum. There are people that will take $100 bill. And clock in for the half an hour and walk around your car and do the inspection and then you get to zoom out of there. There's always going to be those shady places. There's always going to be the shady places to try and take advantage of. The people that don't know any better. I can guarantee if you want to be a stickler about anything, you would not pass one car because you could check the wiper blades. You could check the brake and minimum pads and rotors. You could check every single thing and I can guarantee a car that's more than one or two years old. I could make sure that. That vehicle would not pass inspection. Buy the book that the government puts out for the shops to adhere to. Since we're talking about safety inspections, I wanted to give a shout out to our neighbors in the Fenton Industrial Court. The guys have velocity pump rentals. Listen to the podcast as they Get Out N Drive while they're making deliveries. Thanks for listening and supporting our podcast.
Jason Carr
Like, let's go back to Buddies comment. Who says that the company that does the inspection should not provide the repair and a couple of things, there's a I want to. I want to add to that is there's another fella that says if it's going to be mandated, then make it free, entice people to go get it done. So if it's free, I'm.
John Meyer
Wow.
Jason Carr
Just going to get the inspection. The state or the province, the state or the province should pay the garage to do it.
John Meyer
But who's gonna pay for all of that?
Jason Carr
M. Now. What do you think about having an independent government agency or whatever? Do those inspections just like the dot for commercial trucks? What do you think that like, if you're going to have it and mandate it? OK, we mandate it. It's free. So now you take it to a government agency and they like you just said, it's their job to be bureaucrats and nitpick. For the public safety. MHM. Let's say.
John Meyer
You independent inspections, I think are a really, really good idea. But there's always going to be something that you can find on a car. I think it's a good idea. But I don't understand how that would work because if you have an independent inspectors, they're not supposed to be on one side or the other. They're not supposed to be. Excuse me. Not supposed to be selling. Services that they find. I think that's great, but I don't think that's going to work. I know in Missouri I had independent inspection stations. They used to do smog sniffer tests, Dino testing. They used to drive cars on the dyno and I had a little dodge Omni 4 cylinder, 5 speed that thing. Never saw over 4000 RPM's for whatever reason, people said. People that were working there thought it was a great idea and they did not have any idea how to drive a stick and nobody wanted to work there. They were hiring 1820 year olds at the. Time and they broke the actual shifter connecting mechanism on the transmission and they revved the hell out of that thing and they made it not work. How I did in the real world. And I thought they abused the car and I thought that was terrible. And that inspection system in Missouri, ironically, when it came through in the 90s, was the whole situation was purchased from Texas. That it didn't work at all then either, and it was used to Missouri and there was many, many people that had problems with the independent inspectors for their cars were breaking while they were trying to test them.
Jason Carr
So let's go to the other side of that coin and say let's not mandate inspections. So a there goes the cost, there goes the cash grab. However, there's got to be a way to somehow. Curb. The junk that's floating around out there on the roads. If I can find the comment, I'll post it up here on the screen. One commenter said. That we don't need. Yearly or biannually safety inspections. We need more highway checks on the side of the road. Just like they do with commercial vehicles. So when the police roll up on your clunker and you've got the death wobble on your dodge. Down. Or your Jeep is going down the road and you're fighting the steering wheel. If they see that, then they have every authority to pull you over. Do a stage 123, whatever they call it in the commercial world inspection. And decide right then and there whether your vehicle is safe. If it is not, it gets towed at your expense. So. OK. So we don't mandate inspections? But we give more authority. To the Department of Transportation or to Public Safety or peace officers. To kind of help. Do that on the side of the road or in. Obviously you want to do it in safe locations, but. You find somebody, you pull them over, you check their vehicle. If it's not safe. Off it goes and you're fine. We're like. OK, no, you're not fine. Let me let me take that out of the equation for the guys who are going to say, oh, it's just another cash grab.
John Meyer
I was. I was gonna go there. Alright, I'm listening.
Jason Carr
Yeah. So let's take that out and let's say the police officer basically says, I've checked you. I've checked your car. It is unsafe. It's going to be towed. Where would you like it towed back to your house? Fine. It's at your expense. So the cops not making any money on it for the government. The tow truck company? Maybe you get to call your own tow truck company. I don't know. Either way, the car gets towed. And the repairs need to be done before it can be back on the road. That's the other side of that coin. Where should the government be focusing their attention? When it comes to public safety.
John Meyer
It this is a fine line. This is a very hard biased subject. And I think that's the mindset of everybody that drives a car. The only time you get new tires. Is when your tires are bald, fly off or you crash because you had a tire blowout. That's the only time people get new tires. Build date number on the side of the. Tire. Can it be no more than five years old? In my eyes, I don't want to be driving on tires more than five years. Well, I'm I can drive. I'm. I'm personally have cars that are have tires older than five years old and they look brand new because they've been stored inside because there's a hundred other reasons. Whatever. Should I trust that tire? Probably not. And I'm going to keep saying this 100 times. I think a lot of people are lazy and you can't trust them. The people that are lazy and don't want to do work on their car don't want to have to have inspections, don't want to have anything, that's what leases are for. At least get you out of that whole situation. You get to whip it off into the next year, get a new car, take your old one and toss in the trash. Whatever. It's no different than buying a brand new Porsche, buying a brand new Mercedes. People buy these things and they have 0 intent to take care of them. They have 100%. Intent on driving the thing until the ashtray is kind of full. Maybe now people don't smoke. Maybe you stick coins in it or some trash from Starbucks, but as soon as the ashtray is full. They chucked that thing and they get another brand new car because it's new and it won't. Give them problems.
Jason Carr
So we've looked at the side of the coin that says yes, we must inspect. We've also kind of dived in to the side of the coin that says no, we don't. We don't want to mandate it. We don't want that, that overreach. But we still want something. We still want some. Feel good. Fuzziness. You're driving down the road and the guy beside you is not going to have a wheel fall off and take you out Kia Soul and. Flipping or remember that video that the blade.
John Meyer
Ohh that the brodozer that wheel that flew off and the Kia flipped over.
Jason Carr
We're trying to eliminate arguments here over inspections. So either we do it or we don't. OK. So if we do this is what it looks like. If we don't, this is what it looks like. Well, let's look at the actual safety of. Why some states still do this? The ACI put out a study and they wanted to see whether safety. Was. Actually, a factor in states that had inspection versus states that didn't, they basically said there was no conclusive evidence that said vehicles that mandate state. Safety inspections for your vehicles. Were safer. Then states or provinces and they were talking about states because in the US that didn't. And I thought that was actually strange. How? Can that be? Well, the way they measure that is based on incidence. So when there's an accident, what was the cause of the accident was a cause of mechanical failure. Driver. Mistakes falling asleep. Emergency health incident where they had a medical emergency and basically what it boiled down to was that the mechanical breakdown. Was such a small number. In the average crashes of those states. There was no significant evidence to prove that if you mandate safety inspections, your state is going to have less accidents.
John Meyer
Mandate the hands free with the phones and devices and you'll notice a difference. People crash because they ain't paying attention out. The giant windshield in their.
Jason Carr
Yep.
John Meyer
And they smash into everybody on the highway.
Jason Carr
Yeah, and that's and that's a whole nother video. That's a whole nother episode because again, I did, I did a short video talking about, you know, technology where you're not allowed to have your cell phone in your hand or using your cell phone while you're driving, but yet Tesla, you've got to be a tech major. To pop the friggin glove box or to control your radio or do whatever because it's got this great big giant *** screen in the middle that takes your eyes off the road to make those adjustments and don't look at me all you Tesla guys that say oh, you can control all that from your steering. You can't. You've got like 3 buttons on the steering wheel and none of them adjust anything to do with the frigging great big giant. Tablet in your middle in the middle of your car, so that's a whole other episode. We're getting off topic, but talking about safety is yeah, like. When it comes to safety, what mandates do need to be in place? Are they the roadside mandates that say, OK, there's no law? But I did observe you driving unsafe with your phone in your hand. You know, I witnessed you crossed that double solid line in the middle. You were swerving. Why? Well, it's because you've got the death wobble on your Dodge Ram. And at those points, there's got to be a point that there's. There's a mandate of sorts. I am. I'm look guys, I'm with you. I am not for the government telling me how to live my life. But I wear a seat belt, not because it's the law. I wear a seat belt because I believe that it's safe. Right. I do own vehicles with and without airbags. Does that change the way I drive? No. I drive the same in my suburban as I do in my Crown Vic. I'm a cautious driver. I do my best to keep both hands on the wheel. You know, I'm. I'm constantly scanning around at the cars behind me and look in the rearview mirror. I'm looking at the side view mirrors. You know, I'm. I'm, I pay attention. Do I still cross the line once in a while? Well, you know what everybody does. But you do your best, and the more that you keep your eyes peeled, the less. You're going. Be. Distracted. And when it comes to safety on your car and whether or not having a rust hole in your rocker panel permits it, being failure on your motor vehicle safety inspection. Or the fact that you've got. Brake lines the size of your pinky finger because they're so swollen and flaky. Are they leaking? No. So should they pass? Subjective. And there's so many Gray areas when it comes to stuff. Like. That but like where? Where does the where do we draw the line?
John Meyer
No, no, I no, I'm not a boater. I'm not an avid boater. I don't never. I've been on a. Boat. You know, how does this work with boats? Does nobody look at the at the boats ever? Of if they're leaking or anything at all, is there any and maybe viewers can tell me, is there any inspection, visual or anything with the boat?
Jason Carr
I can't speak to that because I. Am not a boater. But I have a lot of friends who are, and I know that they've got boats, that they go pluck out of the field somewhere. Stick a motor on it and if it.
John Meyer
Floats, it goes.
Jason Carr
Runs. Exactly. If, as long as you keep it moving, it ain't going to sink. As soon as you stop. Well, that's. I mean, it's on you. It's up to you to self police. And there's more. Was more and more. Evidence of policing within the boating worlds in Canada. Now you have to you have to get a boaters license now. To have anything with a motor. In the water.
John Meyer
I see.
Jason Carr
Or an engine should I say, but the whole?
John Meyer
Don't start with me.
Jason Carr
The whole point is when it comes to not just your safety. But the safety of those around you, I'm of the belief that there does need to be. There's got to be something there from the government that says look. We truly are just looking out for your safety and the safety of those around you. Whether there's money involved or not. Not everything the government does is a conspiracy or a money grab or a scam like. I'm of the belief that look, if you can't maintain your own vehicle, you've got to have somebody do it for you. You've got to have faith that that person is doing the job that you've asked them to do. If you've gotten screwed over or you're getting screwed over. That's on you to make sure you don't let that person do it again. You know what's that old saying? You know, fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice.
John Meyer
Don't be fooled again. Now Jason. We talk about government overreach and all that jazz. I keep trying to make this because my brain is so stuck on cars, trucks, whatever, vehicles. There's a reason why building codes exist. There's a reason why if people want to do something, they got to get permits, which they're getting a third party inspector coming in to make sure you're not building the pool in your backyard out of cardboard. They're trying to make sure you're not building a skyscraper you know, out of connects or Legos. And cover it in concrete because I guarantee people would do something stupid if they were, would left to their own. It 100% applies. It's the same thing.
Jason Carr
Well, you. You look at the shanties in a lot of these third world countries that are just shacks just thrown together for the sake of keeping a roof over their head. Now I get it. Third world countries that they're, they're very poor people, they just they use their resources. What they can. Clearly no go, no government overreach there. They're living in poverty, but.
John Meyer
I believe squalor is the word you're looking for.
Jason Carr
Like there you go. Right? Like when it when it comes to public safety, there's gotta. There's gotta be a thing. That's why we have like you said building codes, fire codes. Right. When it comes to putting a, you're building your own driveway on a new piece of property. You can't just. Go stick a.
John Meyer
Culvert in and basic why do these things exist? Why do building codes exist?
Jason Carr
Because somebody effed up somewhere. Once Upon a time.
John Meyer
Yes. Yes, because somebody wants to save money. Somebody wants to be a shy. Mr. Somebody is flat out, not educated and I don't want them wiring my house, wiring the house next to mine.
Jason Carr
All those who think OSHA is a load of malarkey raise their hand, however. However, it's a necessary evil. I say that because a as a company owner, we don't have OSHA in New Brunswick. We have something similar. It's called workers comp or it's public safety as part of. That. Like we have to pay into that as a business for our employees as a protection for them should they get hurt on the. Well. Right. A, we hate to see them get hurt, but B, how bad or how much do we enforce? Some of these stupid little rules that they have. But they're there, and if we don't follow them? We. Are the ones at risk.
John Meyer
You want to talk about OSHA for a tiny little second? I had them come into my Body Shop. I invited them in so that I wouldn't be surprised. Oh, she's here. I used their program and I invited them in now. Paint and Body Shop. Has paint. And all sorts of things, right? If and I talked to the ocean inspector and I said is paint. On a car hazardous material. No, because it's a product. Is paint on a towel or a rag or a piece of paper hazardous material? Yes. Why is it different? He would not tell me paint in a can without a lid is waste.
Jason Carr
But again, we. Bring up OSHA to talk about. Necessary evils? Car insurance we all hate to pay it. It's so bloody expensive. Some states, like New Hampshire, don't require. Right. And guys, the whole reason why we're on this topic is because recently New Hampshire announced that come January 31st, 2026, they will do away with safety inspections. That's what got me on this topic with my social media. This is what got us together here tonight. We, you know, some of us do believe that. These are necessary evils. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to stake my claim right now and say that I believe that annual at the very least, biannual safety inspections on motor vehicles. Are a necessary evil I can look after my stuff. I know my vehicles are safe, so I wouldn't put her life at risk and therefore I'm not gonna put yours either. But I am the only person on this planet that I trust.
John Meyer
Well, sure. If I was forced to. If I was forced to answer that, I would say I would want vehicle inspection. 100% because I want my stuff looked after and I also want the idiot coming at me looked after.
Jason Carr
I think we're both on the same page on this, John. We hate the fact that the government has to have a say. But when it comes to public safety, when it comes to other people's stupidity or lack of care or respect for other drivers on the road, there's a point where something's gotta be done. And also guys if you are listening to this on the podcast and you want to see some visuals of what we're actually talking about here, head on over to YouTube to Get Out N Drive because this is where we show off a lot of the things that we talk about. Sometimes it's neat to just listen. It's even better to visual. Don't forget to pick up your beer koozie or T-shirt at shop.oldcarguide.com. Use OCG 10 for 10% off your order. I'm going to end this episode. With a small clip from the Canadian YouTube channel just rolled in and you guys can determine for yourself whether or not you think these people. Should be allowed on the road. Without inspections, John, this was a this was a great topic. We rambled on here for 45 minutes and I think that we covered a lot of topics. We tried to be as unbiased as possible and looking at a lot of different angles. From different people's points of view based on the comments that were in those videos that I did. What was your biggest take away from this whole thing?
John Meyer
My biggest take away is that the people that are complaining about it the most are going to be the biggest abusers of the system.
Jason Carr
There you go, folks. We've said it, we've talked about it. We tried to cover every angle. We tried to hit every nail on the head. I.
John Meyer
If you if people have a different opinion and I'm sure they're going to comments, man, hit them, hit them, hit us with.
Jason Carr
Hope.
John Meyer
Comments you.
Jason Carr
If you're listening to this on our podcast and you feel like you have a talk worthy subject that we need to discuss, make sure you head on over to get out and dr.com scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page at our list or hotline. Tell us exactly what's on your mind and we will do our best to research it and come up with as much information as we can to argue both sides. John, this is great. I love doing this. I can't wait for the next episode.
John Meyer
Me too.
Jason Carr
Roll the just rolled in.
Speaker 5
Hey, guys, welcome to a new episode of Just rolled in. Customer states my car started making a noise after I left Panera. This customer came in with his Maserati after he had big issues with his tie rods. The customer said that they had bought the tie rods from Teemu. This is how this customer's car was brought to the shop for his yearly inspection.
Speaker 6
Customer states they got a noise while driving. Hmm, well. That looks wrong. It can't be the noise. They walk over to the other side and. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Yep, yeah, they look.
Speaker 5
When this car was brought in for its MOT inspection, the mechanic found that this rear control arm was very poorly welded and had a couple of door hinges, nails, and a chisel welded to it. This car rolled into the shop with the customer complaining his car had been struggling with grip lately. Customer states their steering is making a farting noise. The Body Shop had replaced the steering rack after the crash, but did not program the new rack when the vehicle was driven to the dealership with the fuse poles, it damaged the new rack. This car was just purchased and came in for an oil change in four tires. The technician found the baking sheet to be full of rags catching the oil and RTV to stop the leak. Customer states her vehicle doesn't stop like it used to. The rotor had completely separated. The customer was an elderly lady that did not have the money for the repairs, so the shop repaired it for free so she could stop. Safely. This vehicle came in for some tire issues. The technician found nose pliers from the frame and wondered whether they belonged to the customer or another shop.
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Jason Carr
What drives you?